1 00:00:08,690 --> 00:00:06,790 hi everybody can you hear me okay 2 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:08,700 excellent Thanks 3 00:00:16,730 --> 00:00:13,770 okay so just some ground rules I'm here 4 00:00:18,109 --> 00:00:16,740 to talk about predicting unpredictable 5 00:00:19,630 --> 00:00:18,119 things I'm not here to talk about 6 00:00:21,919 --> 00:00:19,640 elections I'm not here to talk about 7 00:00:24,259 --> 00:00:21,929 politics and our highly galvanized 8 00:00:27,919 --> 00:00:24,269 political environment or the role of 9 00:00:30,409 --> 00:00:27,929 media so as most of us know in November 10 00:00:32,870 --> 00:00:30,419 of 2016 the US had a presidential 11 00:00:34,370 --> 00:00:32,880 election and leading up to that election 12 00:00:36,770 --> 00:00:34,380 there was a lot of speculation about 13 00:00:38,660 --> 00:00:36,780 what votes would what states would vote 14 00:00:39,830 --> 00:00:38,670 in which way and who would be the winner 15 00:00:43,450 --> 00:00:39,840 and all that sort of thing 16 00:00:46,460 --> 00:00:43,460 and on November 4th CNN updated its 17 00:00:49,490 --> 00:00:46,470 electoral college map and it reflected 18 00:00:52,910 --> 00:00:49,500 six what they were calling battleground 19 00:00:55,820 --> 00:00:52,920 states Arizona Florida Nebraska's second 20 00:00:57,380 --> 00:00:55,830 congressional district Nevada New 21 00:00:59,510 --> 00:00:57,390 Hampshire and North Carolina 22 00:01:03,350 --> 00:00:59,520 and those states are reflected on the in 23 00:01:06,050 --> 00:01:03,360 the yellow gold color on the map now by 24 00:01:08,330 --> 00:01:06,060 definition a battleground state is one 25 00:01:10,399 --> 00:01:08,340 in which the outcome cannot be 26 00:01:12,859 --> 00:01:10,409 determined through the use of regular 27 00:01:15,529 --> 00:01:12,869 statistical instruments and I thought 28 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:15,539 this is a perfect application for sigh 29 00:01:19,969 --> 00:01:17,850 that the only way we could get any 30 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:19,979 insight to this would be through some 31 00:01:27,380 --> 00:01:23,969 intuitive process so around this time I 32 00:01:30,469 --> 00:01:27,390 started working with something called a 33 00:01:32,179 --> 00:01:30,479 symbolic hieronymus machine show of 34 00:01:34,789 --> 00:01:32,189 hands how many people are familiar with 35 00:01:37,669 --> 00:01:34,799 the existence of this device okay so a 36 00:01:41,510 --> 00:01:37,679 few of you so I'm gonna give a very very 37 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:41,520 brief overview of this thing so there is 38 00:01:48,319 --> 00:01:44,329 first a physical device and in 1949 39 00:01:51,139 --> 00:01:48,329 Thomas hieronymus Thomas rodimus was 40 00:01:53,300 --> 00:01:51,149 awarded a US patent for his device which 41 00:01:56,209 --> 00:01:53,310 could be used for the detection of 42 00:01:59,679 --> 00:01:56,219 emanations from materials and the 43 00:02:01,789 --> 00:01:59,689 measurement of the volumes thereof 44 00:02:04,010 --> 00:02:01,799 however if you looked at the actual 45 00:02:06,559 --> 00:02:04,020 electronics of the device it makes 46 00:02:08,930 --> 00:02:06,569 absolutely no sense it shouldn't work at 47 00:02:11,449 --> 00:02:08,940 all it follows no node and laws of 48 00:02:13,490 --> 00:02:11,459 engineering or electronics but yet 49 00:02:17,020 --> 00:02:13,500 people still reported being able to get 50 00:02:19,300 --> 00:02:17,030 results from it then in the late 1950 51 00:02:21,640 --> 00:02:19,310 john campbell who was a supporter of psy 52 00:02:25,210 --> 00:02:21,650 research at the time started to pen a 53 00:02:28,690 --> 00:02:25,220 series of op-ed pieces and he claimed 54 00:02:30,310 --> 00:02:28,700 that if you removed all the electronics 55 00:02:34,030 --> 00:02:30,320 from the device and replaced them with 56 00:02:36,490 --> 00:02:34,040 nothing more than its its schematic you 57 00:02:39,580 --> 00:02:36,500 could still get results from the device 58 00:02:42,940 --> 00:02:39,590 and thus the symbolic version of this 59 00:02:44,590 --> 00:02:42,950 machine was born and campbell speculated 60 00:02:47,470 --> 00:02:44,600 that the device was actually that the 61 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:47,480 advice actually worked by the users or 62 00:02:53,199 --> 00:02:49,610 the operators sigh what we would call 63 00:02:55,500 --> 00:02:53,209 the human instrument so this is the 64 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:55,510 schematic that I use in my device and 65 00:03:01,150 --> 00:02:57,890 there's three main parts I want to talk 66 00:03:04,690 --> 00:03:01,160 about the sample or witness train the 67 00:03:07,330 --> 00:03:04,700 rate dial and this the stick plate and 68 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:07,340 the way this device works is you get 69 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:09,290 your sample of the thing you want to 70 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:12,410 measure or a representation of the thing 71 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:14,570 you want to measure called a witness you 72 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:16,970 place it on the sample tray then you 73 00:03:22,780 --> 00:03:20,450 simultaneously rotate the knob while 74 00:03:25,180 --> 00:03:22,790 moving your finger across the stick 75 00:03:27,550 --> 00:03:25,190 plate and when the rate knob is that the 76 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:27,560 rate dial is at the right position your 77 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:28,250 finger 78 00:03:34,030 --> 00:03:31,370 somehow sticks to the plate there's a 79 00:03:36,130 --> 00:03:34,040 tactile change in the plate I don't know 80 00:03:37,570 --> 00:03:36,140 how that happens I don't know why well 81 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:37,580 we can talk about that but I don't know 82 00:03:42,580 --> 00:03:39,650 the mechanics behind why that happens 83 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:42,590 but it's it happens and it's not like 84 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:44,330 your finger is suddenly like glued to 85 00:03:49,300 --> 00:03:46,730 the plate there's just a very definite 86 00:03:51,759 --> 00:03:49,310 change in the way things feel and once 87 00:03:53,740 --> 00:03:51,769 that happens you now have the rate for 88 00:03:56,590 --> 00:03:53,750 this sample that you're looking at 89 00:04:00,340 --> 00:03:56,600 that's on your tray so how did we use a 90 00:04:03,580 --> 00:04:00,350 device like this to talk about future 91 00:04:05,350 --> 00:04:03,590 predicting future events well in the 92 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:05,360 case of Elections what I was interested 93 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:07,850 in was first establishing what I would 94 00:04:13,990 --> 00:04:10,610 call benchmark rates for existing or 95 00:04:16,840 --> 00:04:14,000 historically red or blue states so to do 96 00:04:19,030 --> 00:04:16,850 that I looked at voting data from the 97 00:04:21,580 --> 00:04:19,040 past for presidential elections and 98 00:04:24,370 --> 00:04:21,590 identified four red states and four 99 00:04:27,159 --> 00:04:24,380 historical blue states I wrote those 100 00:04:30,470 --> 00:04:27,169 names and their associations of color on 101 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:30,480 cards and then so I ended up with 102 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:34,050 eight cards I could sample and I didn't 103 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:36,090 think that was very many so I tripled 104 00:04:41,900 --> 00:04:38,730 that and then lit up with a deck of 24 105 00:04:43,340 --> 00:04:41,910 cards that I could use to get to 106 00:04:46,940 --> 00:04:43,350 establish benchmark rates 107 00:04:50,090 --> 00:04:46,950 I then de-identified those cards sealed 108 00:04:52,130 --> 00:04:50,100 them up randomized them and then use the 109 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:52,140 symbolic hieronymus machine to sample 110 00:04:58,640 --> 00:04:56,730 each one and come up with a rate this is 111 00:05:01,340 --> 00:04:58,650 what those rates look like for the red 112 00:05:04,580 --> 00:05:01,350 states so the device gives you a number 113 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:04,590 range between 0 and 100 and here are the 114 00:05:09,380 --> 00:05:06,690 rates for the red states in that of the 115 00:05:12,950 --> 00:05:09,390 12 red states in that deck of 24 cards 116 00:05:18,530 --> 00:05:12,960 spread across horizontally these are the 117 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:18,540 corresponding blue states so to 118 00:05:23,330 --> 00:05:20,730 establish a bench benchmark I took a 119 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:23,340 mean of each state of each sorry they 120 00:05:27,140 --> 00:05:24,930 took the moon's from each of the red 121 00:05:28,550 --> 00:05:27,150 state data and the blue state data and 122 00:05:31,070 --> 00:05:28,560 you can see those means represented 123 00:05:35,660 --> 00:05:31,080 there red came in at 40.6 blue came in 124 00:05:38,210 --> 00:05:35,670 to 56.75 so then I repeated the process 125 00:05:41,030 --> 00:05:38,220 but only with the battleground states 126 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:41,040 that we identified earlier I got their 127 00:05:45,490 --> 00:05:43,050 names I wrote them on some cards I 128 00:05:48,890 --> 00:05:45,500 didn't add their colors to the cards I 129 00:05:51,500 --> 00:05:48,900 randomized them put him on the machine 130 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:51,510 got a rate for each one these are the 131 00:05:58,090 --> 00:05:54,090 resulting rates for the battleground 132 00:06:00,440 --> 00:05:58,100 states in numeric order low to high 133 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:00,450 again now we can apply to make the 134 00:06:05,450 --> 00:06:03,930 prediction we apply the benchmark rates 135 00:06:08,090 --> 00:06:05,460 that we got and we calculate the 136 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:08,100 distance of the rate of the battleground 137 00:06:12,830 --> 00:06:11,250 state to its nearest benchmark and to do 138 00:06:15,350 --> 00:06:12,840 when we do that we end up with these 139 00:06:18,020 --> 00:06:15,360 predictions Nevada New Hampshire at 140 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:18,030 North Carolina would be blue Florida and 141 00:06:24,620 --> 00:06:22,410 Nebraska and Arizona would be red when 142 00:06:25,940 --> 00:06:24,630 the elections over we can look at once 143 00:06:28,910 --> 00:06:25,950 the election was over we look at the 144 00:06:32,210 --> 00:06:28,920 resulting electoral college map and we 145 00:06:37,490 --> 00:06:32,220 can see that we got 5 of those states 146 00:06:39,530 --> 00:06:37,500 correct so it was also interested in how 147 00:06:42,710 --> 00:06:39,540 this protocol would work using a 148 00:06:44,020 --> 00:06:42,720 strictly random system so I went to a 149 00:06:46,420 --> 00:06:44,030 website called random 150 00:06:49,620 --> 00:06:46,430 org you may be familiar with it it's a 151 00:06:53,530 --> 00:06:49,630 it produces truly random numbers from 152 00:06:55,690 --> 00:06:53,540 astronaut Mysteria and instead of so I 153 00:06:59,680 --> 00:06:55,700 repeated the exact same protocol with 154 00:07:01,360 --> 00:06:59,690 the six battleground states but instead 155 00:07:05,410 --> 00:07:01,370 of using the hieronymus machine 156 00:07:07,570 --> 00:07:05,420 I pulled numbers from Brandon org to get 157 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:07,580 the rates and these are the resulting 158 00:07:12,610 --> 00:07:11,090 numbers and again we apply our bench we 159 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:12,620 apply our benchmarks we make our 160 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:14,810 predictions and we find that we only got 161 00:07:23,170 --> 00:07:18,490 two correct using a truly random process 162 00:07:26,610 --> 00:07:23,180 so results the hieronymus machine 163 00:07:29,500 --> 00:07:26,620 resulted in five hits and one miss 164 00:07:33,220 --> 00:07:29,510 random.org got two hits and four misses 165 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:33,230 but yet at the same time frame using 166 00:07:39,100 --> 00:07:36,770 every known and standardized statistical 167 00:07:41,670 --> 00:07:39,110 test and polling method we were unable 168 00:07:44,050 --> 00:07:41,680 to make pundits were unable to make any 169 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:44,060 meaningful predictions at all in the 170 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:47,450 same time frame so just some random 171 00:07:57,700 --> 00:07:51,890 thoughts on this I actually didn't think 172 00:07:59,740 --> 00:07:57,710 this experiment would work i I had a 173 00:08:02,160 --> 00:07:59,750 high desire for it to work I wanted it 174 00:08:05,740 --> 00:08:02,170 to work I was very enthusiastic about it 175 00:08:07,540 --> 00:08:05,750 I didn't really expect it to work 176 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:07,550 although I did believe in the potential 177 00:08:14,230 --> 00:08:12,050 of the phenomena I was crazy surprised 178 00:08:16,030 --> 00:08:14,240 when I actually first got the stick 179 00:08:17,410 --> 00:08:16,040 feeling and now I have to say I'm 180 00:08:19,690 --> 00:08:17,420 completely obsessed with it and I'll 181 00:08:24,130 --> 00:08:19,700 probably be spending the next year just 182 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:24,140 studying that you know garrett was 183 00:08:29,170 --> 00:08:25,970 talking about decline effects and 184 00:08:30,810 --> 00:08:29,180 reliability and in the last few years 185 00:08:32,860 --> 00:08:30,820 when I've been studying precognition 186 00:08:35,620 --> 00:08:32,870 using a whole bunch of different devices 187 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:35,630 and techniques and processes I find that 188 00:08:43,420 --> 00:08:39,050 it works best when experiments are 189 00:08:46,510 --> 00:08:43,430 applied to questions that have no non 190 00:08:49,810 --> 00:08:46,520 sigh method to determine their outcome 191 00:08:51,490 --> 00:08:49,820 so it's really about being selective 192 00:08:56,030 --> 00:08:51,500 about the questions that you ask and 193 00:09:00,080 --> 00:08:57,680 when researching this is a symbolic 194 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:00,090 hieronymus machine I found that it came 195 00:09:04,940 --> 00:09:02,010 with a lot of preconceptions and 196 00:09:07,700 --> 00:09:04,950 expectations about right ways to use it 197 00:09:12,230 --> 00:09:07,710 in wrong ways to use it when I discussed 198 00:09:14,270 --> 00:09:12,240 this with other radionics people or sigh 199 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:14,280 body or doubts about expect other other 200 00:09:19,610 --> 00:09:17,490 practitioners there were very strong 201 00:09:22,190 --> 00:09:19,620 opinions about that there was absolutely 202 00:09:26,300 --> 00:09:22,200 no way I should ever use this device in 203 00:09:27,500 --> 00:09:26,310 this way and I began to realize that 204 00:09:30,290 --> 00:09:27,510 these pre-established 205 00:09:33,380 --> 00:09:30,300 expectations if they're embraced by 206 00:09:35,300 --> 00:09:33,390 operators may limit successful outcomes 207 00:09:40,130 --> 00:09:35,310 especially when we try to branch out and 208 00:09:42,170 --> 00:09:40,140 do new things and then I began to 209 00:09:44,150 --> 00:09:42,180 realize that because most existing side 210 00:09:47,930 --> 00:09:44,160 devices and methods come with their own 211 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:47,940 forms of expectation bias and baggage it 212 00:09:52,700 --> 00:09:50,010 may be necessary to create a new class 213 00:09:54,770 --> 00:09:52,710 of devices that are more open-ended that 214 00:09:56,510 --> 00:09:54,780 allow people to provide to do more 215 00:09:58,220 --> 00:09:56,520 exploration on their own one of my 216 00:10:01,420 --> 00:09:58,230 personal goals is to get people to 217 00:10:05,810 --> 00:10:01,430 embrace their own intuitive processes 218 00:10:07,850 --> 00:10:05,820 and so having a wide range of tools that 219 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:07,860 allow people to do that is something I'm 220 00:10:13,310 --> 00:10:10,650 very very interested in so the main 221 00:10:15,260 --> 00:10:13,320 takeaways this is an exploratory 222 00:10:19,310 --> 00:10:15,270 experiment which needs some refinement 223 00:10:21,110 --> 00:10:19,320 and replication as we move forward with 224 00:10:22,550 --> 00:10:21,120 this work and we have more elections 225 00:10:25,310 --> 00:10:22,560 coming up in the midterms there may be 226 00:10:27,560 --> 00:10:25,320 some opportunities there I'm gonna look 227 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:27,570 at the stick thing and maybe think about 228 00:10:33,680 --> 00:10:29,370 skin galvanic response and its 229 00:10:35,390 --> 00:10:33,690 relationship to the stick the protocol 230 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:35,400 demonstrates the potential application 231 00:10:39,500 --> 00:10:37,290 of symbolic Ouranos machine for event 232 00:10:43,970 --> 00:10:39,510 prediction and it potentially adds 233 00:10:45,530 --> 00:10:43,980 another side modality to the mix so 234 00:10:47,030 --> 00:10:45,540 again I believe the more interesting 235 00:10:49,220 --> 00:10:47,040 things and the more tools that we have 236 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:49,230 available the more different kinds of 237 00:10:53,660 --> 00:10:51,810 people can get involved and have these 238 00:10:57,920 --> 00:10:53,670 experiences and learn to use their own 239 00:11:00,140 --> 00:10:57,930 intuitive processes as always no project 240 00:11:02,900 --> 00:11:00,150 ever happens in a vacuum so I want to 241 00:11:04,740 --> 00:11:02,910 thank everyone that contributed and I 242 00:11:06,900 --> 00:11:04,750 also want to thank the 243 00:11:09,660 --> 00:11:06,910 the program committee forgive me the 244 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:09,670 opportunity to give this talk I'll take 245 00:11:30,780 --> 00:11:11,530 questions or comments of a non-political 246 00:11:33,350 --> 00:11:30,790 nature hi York hello mark okay did you 247 00:11:36,270 --> 00:11:33,360 build your symbolic hieronymus machine 248 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:36,280 yourself or did you buy it somewhere and 249 00:11:43,650 --> 00:11:38,410 if you built it yourself about how long 250 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:43,660 did it take you so I built the device 251 00:11:49,890 --> 00:11:47,170 myself I found the schematics online I 252 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:49,900 did modify those schematics slightly for 253 00:11:58,350 --> 00:11:53,890 my own use I then purchased a wooden box 254 00:12:02,040 --> 00:11:58,360 box shadow box frame from the Amazon for 255 00:12:04,500 --> 00:12:02,050 about four bucks I turned it over and I 256 00:12:08,910 --> 00:12:04,510 sorry you probably look at the device 257 00:12:14,329 --> 00:12:08,920 really quick there's a nice picture of 258 00:12:18,329 --> 00:12:16,770 in case you know anybody wanted to see 259 00:12:21,090 --> 00:12:18,339 this thing so I got this online there's 260 00:12:22,140 --> 00:12:21,100 the URL I'm happy to make this 261 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:22,150 information available to people 262 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:26,050 afterwards so there's the device so that 263 00:12:31,590 --> 00:12:28,210 box is from amazon.com I turned it over 264 00:12:33,930 --> 00:12:31,600 I printed out my schematic on some 265 00:12:36,630 --> 00:12:33,940 glossy photo paper I glued it to the top 266 00:12:38,570 --> 00:12:36,640 I got my dremel I drilled a hole where 267 00:12:41,970 --> 00:12:38,580 the knob should go I pulled the knob off 268 00:12:45,450 --> 00:12:41,980 existing wah-wah pedal or a pedal I had 269 00:12:47,610 --> 00:12:45,460 for my guitar but reverb pedaling wasn't 270 00:12:56,250 --> 00:12:47,620 using stuck it in there and so about 20 271 00:12:58,860 --> 00:12:56,260 minutes to build it okay thank you 272 00:13:01,140 --> 00:12:58,870 the idea of stickiness this is the first 273 00:13:03,030 --> 00:13:01,150 time I've heard this in any professional 274 00:13:05,340 --> 00:13:03,040 audience I appreciate the term and the 275 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:05,350 reason I'm interested in that they were 276 00:13:11,370 --> 00:13:08,650 just which term stick oh yes difference 277 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:11,380 yes yep many years ago I had the 278 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:12,610 occasion to work 279 00:13:17,729 --> 00:13:15,610 the dowser who did map dowsing mm-hmm 280 00:13:19,769 --> 00:13:17,739 and her process was if you're looking 281 00:13:22,609 --> 00:13:19,779 for something in a larger area get an 282 00:13:25,470 --> 00:13:22,619 aerial photo of that area turn it over 283 00:13:27,539 --> 00:13:25,480 so she can't see anything other than a 284 00:13:29,970 --> 00:13:27,549 white surface and he would run her 285 00:13:33,269 --> 00:13:29,980 fingers over the side of the back of it 286 00:13:34,919 --> 00:13:33,279 until it felt sticky and then push a pin 287 00:13:37,379 --> 00:13:34,929 through it turn it over and that's 288 00:13:39,359 --> 00:13:37,389 supposed to be the site right so 289 00:13:41,309 --> 00:13:39,369 stickiness this first time I've heard 290 00:13:43,739 --> 00:13:41,319 that does it since that time yeah yeah 291 00:13:44,939 --> 00:13:43,749 apparently it's a common well I don't 292 00:13:46,769 --> 00:13:44,949 know if it's common but it's certainly 293 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:46,779 common enough where in my initial 294 00:13:51,150 --> 00:13:48,850 explorations I've only been working with 295 00:13:53,100 --> 00:13:51,160 a device like this for a short period of 296 00:14:01,759 --> 00:13:53,110 time but it certainly jumped up popped 297 00:14:07,829 --> 00:14:05,519 especially really cheap tech and I can 298 00:14:09,900 --> 00:14:07,839 print on my printer did you run any 299 00:14:11,879 --> 00:14:09,910 multiple trials with the same target to 300 00:14:15,119 --> 00:14:11,889 see if you get the same stickiness the 301 00:14:17,489 --> 00:14:15,129 same results no I didn't again this is 302 00:14:20,009 --> 00:14:17,499 highly exploratory I literally had a day 303 00:14:25,139 --> 00:14:20,019 to run this experiment between the time 304 00:14:27,389 --> 00:14:25,149 that the CN n map came out with the with 305 00:14:29,489 --> 00:14:27,399 the battleground states to the election 306 00:14:32,069 --> 00:14:29,499 I had to think about this thing design 307 00:14:34,710 --> 00:14:32,079 decide I want to do it design the 308 00:14:36,749 --> 00:14:34,720 protocol collect the data and have it 309 00:14:39,030 --> 00:14:36,759 all stored and ready to go once you know 310 00:14:42,030 --> 00:14:39,040 so there's a lot of really interesting 311 00:14:43,559 --> 00:14:42,040 questions to ask her on this and I'd 312 00:14:45,269 --> 00:14:43,569 love to chat with you about that 313 00:14:47,939 --> 00:14:45,279 and Garret and anybody else who's 314 00:14:50,340 --> 00:14:47,949 interested but yeah it's this is it this 315 00:14:55,710 --> 00:14:50,350 is as far as those things go so so far 316 00:14:57,030 --> 00:14:55,720 as it has has gone so far yes mark 317 00:14:58,859 --> 00:14:57,040 interesting I'm wondering if you're 318 00:15:00,050 --> 00:14:58,869 familiar with the work of georges deloix 319 00:15:02,270 --> 00:15:00,060 Rand 320 00:15:09,350 --> 00:15:02,280 the UH kako people who did agricultural 321 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:09,360 stuff vaguely okay yeah it wasn't it 322 00:15:13,850 --> 00:15:11,370 wasn't prediction now right that's yes 323 00:15:16,490 --> 00:15:13,860 okay thank you mark this is a classic 324 00:15:19,190 --> 00:15:16,500 example of radionics actually but you've 325 00:15:21,110 --> 00:15:19,200 done a very fantastic clever experiment 326 00:15:23,300 --> 00:15:21,120 the thing about stickiness this comes 327 00:15:26,330 --> 00:15:23,310 goes back to Tibetan dowsing where 328 00:15:28,550 --> 00:15:26,340 people rub two fingers together and a 329 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:28,560 yes would be defined as the fingers are 330 00:15:33,500 --> 00:15:31,530 sticky and an oh you know in dowsing 331 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:33,510 would be defined as there's no 332 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:36,290 stickiness where does this come from 333 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:39,330 sympathetic response of the body in 334 00:15:45,830 --> 00:15:41,970 other words more arousal more sweat more 335 00:15:47,060 --> 00:15:45,840 stickiness low level of arousal no 336 00:15:49,430 --> 00:15:47,070 stickiness no sweat 337 00:15:53,980 --> 00:15:49,440 right has there been peer-reviewed 338 00:15:58,610 --> 00:15:53,990 research about GSR and stickiness per se 339 00:16:04,060 --> 00:15:58,620 actually I'm not yeah no absolutely I 340 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:04,070 get it but yeah like yeah I'd love to 341 00:16:09,740 --> 00:16:07,410 this is this is it and I probably won't 342 00:16:24,620 --> 00:16:09,750 publish this completely thank you thank 343 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:24,630 you cheaper and easier method okay sorry 344 00:16:30,500 --> 00:16:26,850 you've already you already owned the 345 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:30,510 component you take your thumbnail that's 346 00:16:36,890 --> 00:16:32,850 your stick plate you take your other 347 00:16:40,610 --> 00:16:36,900 thumb and then you ask your question yes 348 00:16:42,290 --> 00:16:40,620 or no so if it sticks you know if you 349 00:16:44,930 --> 00:16:42,300 feel the stickiness on your thumbnail 350 00:16:47,180 --> 00:16:44,940 that would be whatever your response yes 351 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:47,190 or no response would be Xing you get to 352 00:16:51,770 --> 00:16:50,250 smooth so you can sit in the grocery 353 00:16:53,390 --> 00:16:51,780 store or whatever you're doing or 354 00:16:54,830 --> 00:16:53,400 wherever you're sitting nobody knows 355 00:16:59,450 --> 00:16:54,840 you're doing it did you do it this I 356 00:17:03,920 --> 00:16:59,460 don't know word needed okay that's cool 357 00:17:06,710 --> 00:17:03,930 now thank you very much because I don't 358 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:06,720 like standing up here so um Thank You 359 00:17:07,970 --> 00:17:07,010 Marv